help with vortech v1

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armyan4k

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Hey whats up guys ,ones again i need your help , just got used but strong vortech v1 full kit only thing is i dont know whareto start with tunning and timing so if you can point me how to do
and i got some ford motorsport 42lb injectors with kit i was hoping to install it today do i need intercooler running on my v1 with stock pulley (8psi)
any help would be nice
ones again thx for your time guys

and i was gonna do full custom exhaust running 2 pipes ( 2 and half ) no h pipes or x pipes no cats nothing just headers 2 straight pipes with flowmasters and thats it
 
FrostByte

FrostByte

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Go to Vortech site. They should have install instructions there. You can even call them. Im sure they would help you.
 
AdirondackFox08

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You should be able to look them up. Make sure your fuel pump is upgraded also, and I would not get to crazy with the timing. It would be best if you could take it and get it tuned so you don't have any problems with detonation. You probably don't need an aftercooler yet, I would still use a h-pipe or x-pipe for the exhaust.
 
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armyan4k

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Thx guys i did my work today ill i have to do is put my injectors in run oil in and out ill order new pump tune ill call mustang majik to see if i can get dyno tune i dont have any tuner or stand alones
 
AdirondackFox08

AdirondackFox08

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What fuel pump do you have in it now? I would at least go with a 255 lph pump or the Aeromotive 340lph pump. Also, what else is done to the car engine wise?
 
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armyan4k

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AdirondackFox08 said:
What fuel pump do you have in it now? I would at least go with a 255 lph pump or the Aeromotive 340lph pump. Also, what else is done to the car engine wise?
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gt40 heads port polish no ac no power stearing no smog open headers ( for custom set up) ill order 255 pump injectors are 42lb so if you can tell me what should i buy plz do i wanna get this car running nice my first supercharger car i like turbo set ups but i drove my boy 95gt with v1 in it i like it
 
92BIGREDBEAST

92BIGREDBEAST

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Chech thru my some of my old threads for my 92GT. I had an s trim on there. You definetely need a 255 or larger. You will need a fuel pressure gauge in the fuel rails to make sure yoy have proper fuel pressure. You will need a MAF unit that is calibrated to match your injectors for a starting piont. If yo do not do anything with your MAF unit the car will have a hard time running. If you get a calibrated MAF the car should be OK for daily driving untill you have it chip tuned. I can help you with any questions you have. Remember if your putting more air into the motor you will also have to havematching fuel thus the reason for calibrated MAF and proper fuel pressure / delivery. Good luck with your build. - Gene
 
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armyan4k

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92BIGREDBEAST said:
Chech thru my some of my old threads for my 92GT. I had an s trim on there. You definetely need a 255 or larger. You will need a fuel pressure gauge in the fuel rails to make sure yoy have proper fuel pressure. You will need a MAF unit that is calibrated to match your injectors for a starting piont. If yo do not do anything with your MAF unit the car will have a hard time running. If you get a calibrated MAF the car should be OK for daily driving untill you have it chip tuned. I can help you with any questions you have. Remember if your putting more air into the motor you will also have to havematching fuel thus the reason for calibrated MAF and proper fuel pressure / delivery. Good luck with your build. - Gene
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thx dude i will order my things i need today btw if i wanna run 10-12 psi will my 42lb work or i would need to change it ( for now i will run 8psi)i should get around 350whp? or shooting high?
this should work for me?
http://www.cjponyparts.com/candl-5-...maf-system-without-filter-1986-1993/p/CL119D/
 
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armyan4k

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92BIGREDBEAST said:
Chech thru my some of my old threads for my 92GT. I had an s trim on there. You definetely need a 255 or larger. You will need a fuel pressure gauge in the fuel rails to make sure yoy have proper fuel pressure. You will need a MAF unit that is calibrated to match your injectors for a starting piont. If yo do not do anything with your MAF unit the car will have a hard time running. If you get a calibrated MAF the car should be OK for daily driving untill you have it chip tuned. I can help you with any questions you have. Remember if your putting more air into the motor you will also have to havematching fuel thus the reason for calibrated MAF and proper fuel pressure / delivery. Good luck with your build. - Gene
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now first think i need to do is convert to maf i HAVE SD ill get a conversion kit or something will it work for me to start and drive my car boosting and than ill just conver it to maf
 
92BIGREDBEAST

92BIGREDBEAST

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Stay away from C&L. They are pricey and i hear they are more picky to tune. Get a P Mas or Pro M. Even some of the SCT BA's i hear good results. You should be fine with 42lb green tops if your running an FMU. I have a Vortec FMU on the work bench if you are in the market for one. I do not know anything about SD cars so i can not help ya there. Def get the conversion kit to MAF. Good luck.
 
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armyan4k

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92BIGREDBEAST said:
Stay away from C&L. They are pricey and i hear they are more picky to tune. Get a P Mas or Pro M. Even some of the SCT BA's i hear good results. You should be fine with 42lb green tops if your running an FMU. I have a Vortec FMU on the work bench if you are in the market for one. I do not know anything about SD cars so i can not help ya there. Def get the conversion kit to MAF. Good luck.
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73mm (24lb) Mass Air Conversion
what about kit like this fits best to my set up i think i dont need to get anything extra with this >?
 
AdirondackFox08

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armyan4k said:
73mm (24lb) Mass Air Conversion
what about kit like this fits best to my set up i think i dont need to get anything extra with this >?
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That sounds like the C&L maf, I would stay away from those. I'm not too familiar with the SD to Maf conversions, best thing to do would be to search around for some info. I'm running a Pro M maf and it runs really good without a tune. I would not run the SD with the s/c though, the SD can be pretty finicky even with a few small mods. The maf should always be bigger than the throttle body too.
 
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Saleen

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armyan4k said:
thx dude i will order my things i need today btw if i wanna run 10-12 psi will my 42lb work or i would need to change it ( for now i will run 8psi)i should get around 350whp? or shooting high?
this should work for me?
119D Mustang C&L 5.0L 42Lb 76mm Complete MAF System Without Filter 1986-1993 | CJ Pony Parts
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You will be fine without a fmu. My setup is very close to yours (cobra intake,gt-40 head,tfs1 cam, vortech 11lbs) with no fmu I am at 77% injectors duty cycle. If your curious my put out 416rwhp at 11lbs. I am running a 90mm lightening maf which can be had cheap ($90) but I am close to pegging it. It's around 4.8 volts at WOT. Try and go with a larger maf like 90 mm....you don't want to have a maf smaller than the s/c inlet ideally.
 
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Saleen

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You can also covert to mass air pretty cheap. Get the computer and go to the wreckers and cut off the maf connector that you need and extend the 4 wires. You will have to move afew pins at the computer and your done.
 
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armyan4k

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Saleen said:
You can also covert to mass air pretty cheap. Get the computer and go to the wreckers and cut off the maf connector that you need and extend the 4 wires. You will have to move afew pins at the computer and your done.
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Thx bro i was trying not to use fmu bro sucks but i am getting kit with 80mm maf
 
dsblk93gt

dsblk93gt

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Ive tuned a few Vortech and Paxton cars I can help you out. 42lbers are fine, I prefer a SCT/Granatelli BA2400 mass air meter myself or even a Lightning 90mm. I steer clear of the calibrated mass airs unless someone already has one. I actually changed out a pmas 75mm for a stock 93 Cobra 70mm on a h/c/i car and it ran much better. 255lph pump is fine.
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