Oil pump...

[TBapp3]

Anyone done one in there 2v????


Mine is shot and this is the one im looking into...
Ford Racing High Volume Oil Pump (96-04 GT, Mach 1, Cobra) M-6600-D46 - Free Shipping!

Iv always been happy with AM so I was glad to see they had one, but


Is there anything else needed for the job?

How hard is it?

I have a Haynes repair manual somewhere but I just moved and am having problem's locating it....


Im not even sure of where the oil pump is on the car so any diagram may be helpful... PS.. Im not trying to jump into the job by myself Im just curious as what Im into, If its do able or If I need to bring it to a shop but then still Id like to have a idea of how much work it really comes down too!


Any help is very appreciated!

 

[Wicked One]

The oil pump is behind the crank pully. You have to pull the front cover, remove the timing chains, remove the timing gear and, chain, guide bolts. Then you can get to the 3 remaining bolts holding the pump on.
Not the easiest in the car but can be done.

Edit: forgot that you have to drop the oil pan to install the pickup tube. There are 2 bolts on the bottom of the pump that hold it, and one on the windage tray that holds the other side.

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[TBapp3]

So it almost sounds as If cams should be done at the same time There has to be a bright side to this....

Is it about the same area like its sounding to me, Ill be very close already right????

 

[Wicked One]

I would do cams also. The valve covers have to come off amd you are gonna have to re-time the engine anyway. It might be easier to pull the motor and do it all on a stand. That is how I would do it.

Good luck.

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[TBapp3]

Thanks for the kind words and good info!

Sounds like Iv got some saving to do, at least it happened right at the start of the off season!

 

[SilverSpy0]

Unless I missed something here, high volume oil pumps are only for extremely highly modded cars that need more oil and have a larger pan that will take 7+ quarts of oil, or else the car will actually develop an oil starvation problem.

 

[TBapp3]

Weird.. any one else have anyinput on that.... AM makes it seem usable for the car and doesn't mention such a thing ????

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[Kylejb2663]

Weird.. any one else have anyinput on that.... AM makes it seem usable for the car and doesn't mention such a thing ????

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TBapp,

I have heard the same thing. Sometimes high volume oil pumps can pump so quick at high RPMs that it will literally drain the pan. At idle it would not be a problem it's when you start getting into high RPMs. You can always replace the pan since you're going to have to pull it anyways for the oil pickup. Then you won't have any worries. It'll increase your stock oil capacity to 7 quarts! Plus with all the money you're saving in labor if you do it yourself it won't be a bad price.

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[TBapp3]

Thanks for the input Kyle... Hopefully I will take on the project but I'm still unsure what I'm gonna do as far as getting it done, I just did my first brake job (calipers amd all) and oil change this summer so this is still to advance to jump into alone

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[ShelbyGT]

you absolutely do not need or want a high volume oil pump

the stock oil pump is more than adequate for all but the most serious engines

really all it will do is cost you horsepower(more power is require to drive a h.v. pump) and add to the windage problems mod motors are already noted for.

in my opinion, you should seriously attempt to hook up a mechanical oil pressure gauge to see if you really are loosing oil pressure.

the stock gauge isn't the most reliable piece of equipment

it doesn't need to be permanently mounted in the car, just something makeshift to do the test

also, if you do need a pump, the motor must be pulled as it is not possible to remove/install the pickup tube without completely removing the oil pan and i'm nearly positive the oil pan won't come all the way off with the engine in the car no matter how high you jack up the engine

another thing to consider is that if you really have been loosing oil pressure your engine may need new bearings

 

[TBapp3]

Would it make any sence to you that the stock gauge drops then goes back if I touch the throttle... I gotta figur this out.... Bummed!! I will try a dif gauge now I know where to hook it well see where that brings me....

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[BAzombie]

Todd that sucks about your oil pump. Did you ever hook a mechanical oil gauge up yet ?


If you do have to go through the whole process of changing your oil pump you should think about cams while you have everything opened up that far.

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[TBapp3]

Yes yes zombie man when I fix her it's def gonna be upgrade time atleast for the cams... It all comes down to the saving game but I might go a little further than that with it even

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[roush360r]

your saying oil press drops at idle? does it just do it when its hot or when its cold to? id hook up a mech guage before anything. if you really are loosing oil press then you got more problems. even if its very short time no oil press will do a number on bearings.

 

[dsblk93gt]

NEVER trust the stock oil pressure gauge. Hook a mechanical up.

 

[TBapp3]

I got a mechanical gauge today I'm gonna climb under tomorrow and see what I come up with...was i told it will hook up right by were the filter is??

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[Wicked One]

Yes and no. For a temporary gauge you can remove the stock sending unit. If going to run one full time you need a sandwich adapter plate.

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[TBapp3]

Yes it is just tempoary to see if the stock gauge is working properly or not...

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[Realspeeddan]

Yes it is just tempoary to see if the stock gauge is working properly or not...

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Just remove the stock oil pressure sensor (near the oil filter) and hook up the temporary gauge sensor there. You may need an adapter fitting depending on the size of the hole.

 

[TBapp3]

Awesome thanks and yes the new gauge came with a few dif. Fittings so hopefully one works

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