Who has failed NYS inspection in 2014?

ugotbit

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Guys and Gals-

Looking to gather info on people that have FAILED NYS inspection this year, 2014. I have been hearing through other forums and Facebook groups that people have been failing the OBD/Emssions check due to "no communication" with the new inspection machine. The new inspection machine is similar to the old one, though the program used was made by a different company. All the same things are checked, nothing new has been added. The new machines rolled out Jan 1st this year. Supposedly, the vehicles that have failed are able to communicate with handheld OBD2 scan tools as well as other flash devices. They all have been re-flashed with "performance" calibrations and have passed prior years in the same configuration.

All have been tuned with SCT that I know of this far.

Just looking to gather data to try and pinpoint the common denominator, so we can figure out what is needed to keep us on the road!
 
BLWNMACH1

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New York State has changed the restrictions for passing emissions for 2014. Call Joe at Mustang Magic they have figured out how to pass the emissions. They are open Tuesday-Saturday, 631-254-3430.
 
ugotbit

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NYS has not changed restrictions for passing inspection.

1996-2000 are allowed TWO monitors not ready/incomplete

2001- present are only allowed ONE monitor not ready/incomplete

The issue is with the new inspection machine, not communicating with a vehicle that has been re-flashed with a performance calibration.

Like I said I'm looking for people that have failed, this year, and of they have anything turned "off" in the tune.
 
SVTCruz

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I had the no communication problem yesterday. I had the 93 octane tune from my sct tuner installed. I returned my Cobra back to stock and it was able to communicate. But I failed because the computer wasn't ready! :nono:
 
ugotbit

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SVTCruz said:
I had the no communication problem yesterday. I had the 93 octane tune from my sct tuner installed. I returned my Cobra back to stock and it was able to communicate. But I failed because the computer wasn't ready! :nono:
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Do you know if anything is turned off in the tune?

Have you been able to pass with that same tune years prior to this?

Thanks for you input!
 
SVTCruz

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ugotbit said:
Do you know if anything is turned off in the tune?

Have you been able to pass with that same tune years prior to this?

Thanks for you input!
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I only had the 93 octane and rear O2 sensors shut off. Yes I have passed at this same location with the same tune
 
On Edge

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* I know 5 people who have failed. All with "tunes".
* I have heard joe at MM knows something.

To svt Cruz....hope this isn't a stupid question. But when returning your car back to the stock tune, how do you then drive to the inspection station. I don't have stock injectors, fuel pumps, cams and maf. I paid alot of $$ for my tune,and would hate to F anything up.

* the new inspection machine is causing alot of concerns.
* I'm a 1999, so maybe I have nothing to worry about.
 
ROUSH 4

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The new machines can tell if the tune is stock or custom. If the tune is custom , there is no communication. Hence you fail the test. Your failing not because the car does not pass the test. Their program does not want to evaluate the car. This is an issue. If you put the stock tune back in for inspection , their program will communicate with the car and perform its testing data program. If no emmissions issues are detected, there will be a PASS. They are failing cars that have no emmissions issues and are NYS EMMISSIONS COMPLIANT . They are custom tuned. OPUS INSPECTION took over the NYS contract. 50% of all inspection sites , now have the NEW machines in NYS. The machines have been in operation since JANUARY 2014.:nono::stang5: Inspection fines are as follows: 60 months or less out of inspection $50.00 plus an $85 surcharge if ticketed. More than 60 months or no window sticker $100 plus $85 surcharge. :nono::stang5:
 
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ugotbit

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On Edge-

I highly do not recommend driving with non-stock MAF and injectors on a stock calibration.

Every case is different, but if your injectors and MAF are not huge and you have access to a wideband to measure A/F ratio, maybe you could get away with it, BUT will probably run like crap anyway and cause a MIL or the monitors not to run anyway defeating the purpose.

This is why people like us(cams,MAF,injectors,FI built engines) are screwed.

I'm waiting on a tune from Steeda for a 2006 GT I'm working on that needs an inspection and I also will try and inspect my 2003 Cobra tomorrow and report back. My car has all Emssions devices in place and turned on in the tune.

Roush- thanks for that info!
 
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On Edge

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ROUSH 4 said:
The new machines can tell if the tune is stock or custom. If the tune is custom , there is no communication. Hence you fail the test. Your failing not because the car does not pass the test. Their program does not want to evaluate the car. This is an issue. If you put the stock tune back in for inspection , their program will communicate with the car and perform its testing data program. If no emmissions issues are detected, there will be a PASS. They are failing cars that have no emmissions issues and are NYS EMMISSIONS COMPLIANT . They are custom tuned. OPUS INSPECTION took over the NYS contract. 50% of all inspection sites , now have the NEW machines in NYS. The machines have been in operation since JANUARY 2014.:nono::stang5: Inspection fines are as follows: 60 months or less out of inspection $50.00 plus an $85 surcharge if ticketed. More than 60 months or no window sticker $100 plus $85 surcharge. :nono::stang5:
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I know it's not possible , because nys won't renew your regi....but I would rather go 60 months without the hassle of an inspection and pay the $185. :awesomework: Just saying.
 
ugotbit

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What I would really like to know is what in the "performance" tune is a red flag to the machine causing it to not communicate?

Also, is it just SCT?

Anyone use Binary Editor? Diablo Sport? Sniper?

Dealers are constantly re-flashing with newer calibrations and none of those will cause issues.
 
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ROUSH 4

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On Edge said:
I know it's not possible , because nys won't renew your regi....but I would rather go 60 months without the hassle of an inspection and pay the $185. :awesomework: Just saying.
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Thats just the fine , if seen. By that point the REGISTRATION may have already expired because of non inspection compliance. The car might as well sit PARKED with NO plates , if this NEW machine remains as is :stang5: :nono:
 
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ROUSH 4

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My 2010 GT will be inspected in 2 weeks.......Not due till next OCTOBER. Going in early to take the inspection TEST:stang5:
 
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